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MIX CHALLENGE - MC097 April 2024 - Mix Round 1 in evaluation

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Re: MIX CHALLENGE - MC097 April 2024 - Submissions until 21-APR-2024 23:59 UTC+2/CEST

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@Rockincher
Your Drive link should be open access. Otherwise your will be disqualified.
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Re: MIX CHALLENGE - MC097 April 2024 - Submissions until 21-APR-2024 23:59 UTC+2/CEST

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@LCM! Sorry, I just removed the limitation. It should be accessible now.
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Re: MIX CHALLENGE - MC097 April 2024 - Submissions until 21-APR-2024 23:59 UTC+2/CEST

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TSTstudio wrote:
Fri Apr 05, 2024 18:33 CEST
This was only practice for me, delete it and I'm fine,
I'm 75 years old and do not see so well and I have a problem reading a whole book of rules anyway
Good luck
I hope you'll be back. For what it's worth I thought your mix was great and would still have been great if you hadn't inadvertently infringed the rules. I did the same when I first got here.
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Re: MIX CHALLENGE - MC097 April 2024 - Submissions until 21-APR-2024 23:59 UTC+2/CEST

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Yes, the rule book seems intimidating because it is really detailed, but actually the rules are simple.

We have to provide a mix ready for mastering, the song provider normalises our mixes to compare them at the same level.

So, the rules can be summarised quite easily:
- true peak: -1dB max (and -6dB min to avoid a bit depth drop)
- integrated LUFS: -16dB max
- export with the same bit depth as the provided tracks
- export with the same sample rate as the provided tracks
- respect the filename template
- be careful to the file accessibility (no private access)
- no drums replacement :wink:

And that's all...
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Re: MIX CHALLENGE - MC097 April 2024 - Submissions until 21-APR-2024 23:59 UTC+2/CEST

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MartialFromentin wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2024 15:24 CEST
Yes, the rule book seems intimidating because it is really detailed, but actually the rules are simple.

We have to provide a mix ready for mastering, the song provider normalises our mixes to compare them at the same level.

So, the rules can be summarised quite easily:
- true peak: -1dB max (and -6dB min to avoid a bit depth drop)
- integrated LUFS: -16dB max
- export with the same bit depth as the provided tracks
- export with the same sample rate as the provided tracks
- respect the filename template
- be careful to the file accessibility (no private access)
- no drums replacement :wink:

And that's all...
Agreed... now I understand them. Being disqualified focussed my attention, no complaints here. I like the loudness rules, it avoids simple "louder is better" moves that skew a competition like this and encourages the art of making an impact without just resorting to loudness.
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Re: MIX CHALLENGE - MC097 April 2024 - Submissions until 21-APR-2024 23:59 UTC+2/CEST

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MartialFromentin wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2024 15:24 CEST
Yes, the rule book seems intimidating because it is really detailed, but actually the rules are simple.

We have to provide a mix ready for mastering, the song provider normalises our mixes to compare them at the same level.

So, the rules can be summarised quite easily:
- true peak: -1dB max (and -6dB min to avoid a bit depth drop)
- integrated LUFS: -16dB max
- export with the same bit depth as the provided tracks
- export with the same sample rate as the provided tracks
- respect the filename template
- be careful to the file accessibility (no private access)
- no drums replacement :wink:

And that's all...
It is not all...don't forget:
-no re-uploading your mix, your (first) upload is final
maybe I forgot something....best to check the rulebook anyway!
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MIX CHALLENGE - MC097 April 2024 - Submissions until 21-APR-2024 23:59 UTC+2/CEST

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The Mix Pack bundled "TL;DR Rules.txt" covers all that as well.



:arrow_right: Either way - friendly reminder:
Including today, 13 days left.

I have 15 mixes on my HDD so far (if I didn't miss one), the multi-tracks have been downloaded 119 times.
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Re: MIX CHALLENGE - MC097 April 2024 - Submissions until 21-APR-2024 23:59 UTC+2/CEST

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JeroenZuiderwijk wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2024 17:19 CEST
MartialFromentin wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2024 15:24 CEST
Yes, the rule book seems intimidating because it is really detailed, but actually the rules are simple.

We have to provide a mix ready for mastering, the song provider normalises our mixes to compare them at the same level.

So, the rules can be summarised quite easily:
- true peak: -1dB max (and -6dB min to avoid a bit depth drop)
- integrated LUFS: -16dB max
- export with the same bit depth as the provided tracks
- export with the same sample rate as the provided tracks
- respect the filename template
- be careful to the file accessibility (no private access)
- no drums replacement :wink:

And that's all...
It is not all...don't forget:
-no re-uploading your mix, your (first) upload is final
maybe I forgot something....best to check the rulebook anyway!
OK, that's almost all. :grin:
But it was a summary, the checklist before posting the mix, if we don't want to regret not to have the possibility to reupload the file. :P
Even if a mistake is always possible, I'm always surprised by the amount of files that don't respect these rules.
Saying that, I hope I won't be tagged out in the data sheet or I'll feel ridiculous! :lol:
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Re: MIX CHALLENGE - MC097 April 2024 - Submissions until 21-APR-2024 23:59 UTC+2/CEST

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MartialFromentin wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2024 15:24 CEST
So, the rules can be summarised quite easily:
- true peak: -1dB max (and -6dB min to avoid a bit depth drop)
- integrated LUFS: -16dB max
I feel I should mention that the integrated LUFS limit shouldn't strictly be written as -16dB, but -16 LUFS only.

While it's true that 1 loudness unit is 1dB (IE: turning a master fader down by 1dB should result in a loudness decrease of 1 LUFS), dBs are typically concerned with peak waveform levels where as LUFS are measured over a longer period of time; so -16 LUFS integrated is not necessarily the same as -16dB.
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Re: MIX CHALLENGE - MC097 April 2024 - Submissions until 21-APR-2024 23:59 UTC+2/CEST

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Actually, loudness fluctuations measured with EBU R128 or ITU-R BS.1770-1+ are noted down in +- <value> LU, not dB (relative) or dBFS (absolute).

The task is still:
do not exceed -16,0 LUFS ILk (loudness, integrated) and -1,00 dBTP max signal strength.


:information_source: I will update the Rule Book - TL;DR section later tonight. This is long overdue. However, the "full set", the Mix Pack bundled TL;DR Rules.txt and post #001 all cover this multiple times over.

Let us please get back to the main game.
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